
Start of #Civ3dem buffer: Sun Jul 21 23:51:00 2002
* Now talking in #Civ3dem
* Topic is '#civ3dem The main chat is now #civ3demministers GO'
* Set by Trip- on Thu Jul 18 22:05:06
* Ninot has his Civ3 started up, any complaints going ahead now?
<Spiffor> hi
<Epistax> someone here using aol??
<Spiffor> PLease wait 2 mins
<Ninot> Ahh, the spiff man
* skywalker- thinks no
<skywalker-> me
<skywalker-> I use it
<Ninot> if there are, my job isnt complete :)
<skywalker-> unfortunatly
<UberKruX> which sav is the right oen
<Gepap> shouldn't we wait for more of the gov?
<UberKruX> ninneys ro linneys
<Ninot> the one in my executive report
<Ninot> mine i suppose
<UberKruX> theres 2.
<Ninot> i am the president
<skywalker-> not my fault
<Ninot> ;)
<Epistax> wonder why such a bad showing
<Gepap> were are time, sn00p, spiffor, goodFella, so forth?
<UberKruX> loading game.
<Spiffor> ok, ready
<skywalker-> everyone hates ninot - duh (kidding)
* UberKruX sets mode: +v Spiffor
<Epistax> spiff is here
<Epistax> sn00p is probably drawing
<Gepap> yeah!
<skywalker-> yep
<Gepap> hope he come out with new stuff soon
<Epistax> goodfella is sitting in the corner for being a badfella
<skywalker-> probablement
<skywalker-> lol
<OPD> Uber have youput any thought into building horsemen in the near future possibly as part of the 
  relief force.
<Gepap> We have HBR?
<skywalker-> hbr?
<skywalker-> qui?
<Ninot> 9 shall we begin?
<skywalker-> quoi?
* Epistax remembers how it used to be in civ 2 and rivers for transport
<SirRalph> yes
<skywalker-> yes
<Gepap> horsebackridding, or HBR
<Spiffor> Ninot : no objection
<skywalker-> oh
<UberKruX> OPD: I've been looking at it. It's a tough call. we'd end up with less units but better chance 
  of survival
<Epistax> i'm gonna think HBR is harbor
<UberKruX> OPD: i may have a debate and then a poll
<Ninot> nothing to do at years end 1400?
<OPD> cheers
<Spiffor> Ninot : something to do
<Gepap> , naw, HAR for harbor
<UberKruX> objection
<Ninot> ?
<UberKruX> i think apolyton should build a spearman rather than an archer
<Spiffor> Ninot : raise the science rate by 10%, and research currency
<Spiffor> I second Uber
<Ninot> k
<SirRalph> you wanted 6 archers
<SirRalph> its the 6th
<Epistax> hmm we already have more than enough spearmen for the attack I thought
<Gepap> No more diplomacy for a while, right?
<skywalker-> yea
<skywalker-> archers
<Epistax> I thought we wanted two and had three-- didn't count myself, that's what others said
<SirRalph> sure. time matters
<UberKruX> SirRalph: yes. i'd rather have the 2nd spear first
<Ninot> 4Apolyton switches to Spearmen
<skywalker-> ???
<UberKruX> SirRalph: it was your uidea for a 2 spearmen defense
<UberKruX> SirRalph: so that the archers could move on after washington falls
<skywalker-> but... but...
<Ninot> 4Science raised 10%, researching Currency
<SirRalph> we already have 3 spearman
<Gepap> yeah, money!
<SirRalph> why do we need one more
<UberKruX> you suggest taking one out of apolyton?
<Gepap> what about stabs in the back?
<SirRalph> yes, why not
<Ninot> we have one spearmen and one warrior in apolyton
<SirRalph> gepap: from the sea?
<UberKruX> alright. so be it.
<UberKruX> make apolyton build an archer
<Gepap> Don't know, from French?
<Epistax> at max, 3 turns after the party is sent, a new spearman can be made
<skywalker-> ok
<Gepap> Thay might decide to get s first
<UberKruX> and when it is built, send the spearman with it to the mtn
<SirRalph> yea, we build the spearman when the army leaves
<Ninot> 4switching Apolyton  back to archer.. the spearmen change wont be recorded
<Gepap> Maybe they have spies in Apolyton(the site)
<skywalker-> how?
<Gepap> don't know... Markos?
<skywalker-> I don't think they've gotten espionage yet
<skywalker-> I'm not sure
<UberKruX> lol
<Epistax> remember apolyton has 2 defensive units
<Ninot> 9end 1400 bc?
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<UberKruX> agreed.
<skywalker-> but it's a possiblility
<Gepap> 1, yes
* UberKruX sets mode: +v Good-Fella
<Ninot> 4turn ended
<Spiffor> agreed
<skywalker-> no unit moves?
<UberKruX> it was the end of 1400
<Ninot> 7Termina builds Arhcer
<Ninot> Archer even
<UberKruX> stop playing ahead sky ;)
<Good-Fella> yo
<skywalker-> termina autobuilds galley!
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<UberKruX> lol
<skywalker-> YIPEE!!
<skywalker-> :)
<Gepap> howdy
<UberKruX> sign from god? ;)
<Ninot> lol
<BigFurryMonster> Hi all!
<Spiffor> hi
<Gepap> howdy 2
<BigFurryMonster> Is this the turn chat?
<Gepap> yes
<skywalker-> yep
<Epistax> sadly
<Gepap> were back to norma
<SirRalph> 1 more archer and we can go :D
<BigFurryMonster> Good :-)
<skywalker-> are we building a galley?
<skywalker-> pretty please!!!
<skywalker-> lol
<Ninot> Apolyton 2 turns from completion of its archer
<Gepap> we should have a ship
<SirRalph> argh, why dont we have a road to BHQ
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<Spiffor> Ninot : what does Termian produce now ?
<Gepap> galley
<SirRalph> talk about ppublic works
<UberKruX> SirRalph: i dont know. i assumed it would be done in my warpath thread
<Gepap> we need quick post
<Epistax> public broke
<Ninot> whos the public works minister? punkbass.. right, he aint here, so group decision
<Ninot> someone propose something
<UberKruX> no
<SirRalph> no
<Gepap> No, GoodFella is works
<Epistax> lol
<SirRalph> goodfella
<UberKruX> publioc works is goodfella
<Good-Fella> i am
<SirRalph> punkbass is the city planner
<Ninot> oh, right
<Ninot> so who is public works?
<skywalker-> beat me to it
<Good-Fella> were one 1375 b.c., right?
<skywalker-> goodfella
<Gepap> the fella
<Ninot> yup, 1375
<Good-Fella> im min. of public works
<Epistax> yep
<SirRalph> yes
<Ninot> right.. 
<Gepap> now that thats clear
<Good-Fella> ok we only have one worker available right?
<BigFurryMonster> What happened last turn? Anything special?
<Ninot> yup
<Ninot> between Termina and BHQ i believe
<Ninot> yup
<skywalker-> what's termina building?  still galley?
<Epistax> making another worker would help....
<Gepap> , yes, more workers
<Ninot> Termina's production has not been altered (so yeah, galley)
<Good-Fella> the stacked one right?  if yes have it finish building the mine
<Epistax> and termina IS about to grow..
<Ninot> Worker would take two tunrs
<Gepap> thats quick
<skywalker-> termina builds worker?
<Ninot> 9Shall Termina build Worker? 1: yes 2: no
<Gepap> 1
<UberKruX> 2
<Spiffor> 2
<Epistax> 1
<OPD> 1
<Good-Fella> but i have a strong suspicion termina will be unhappy when it grows
<Good-Fella> 1
<skywalker-> 2
<Epistax> lo,l
<Ninot> lol, Spiff, Uber, what ya want?
<rendelnep> 1
<SirRalph> 2
<Kohonen> can everyone vote?
<Spiffor> Ninot : a spearman
<Gepap> yes
<Spiffor> We need a 2 spearman defense
<UberKruX> spearman
<UberKruX> for poly
<Good-Fella> yup
<Kohonen> 1
<skywalker-> could we poprush a galley (hint hint :)) when it grows?
<BigFurryMonster> 3 (abstain)
<Ninot> 9Shall Termina build a spearmen? 1: yes 2: no
<UberKruX> 1
<Spiffor> 1
<Ninot> i suppose its yes
<BigFurryMonster> 3
<Gepap> 2
<Epistax> -- Poly has 2 defending units at this moment
<Good-Fella> 2
<Gepap> no 3's BFM
<Kohonen> 2
<OPD> Termina pop rush something?
<Epistax> lol
<BigFurryMonster> I vote blank!
<Good-Fella> build spear after worker
<rendelnep> 1
<BigFurryMonster> 1.5 then?
<Ninot> make me a decision before i start banning AOL users on the spot ;) (lol)
<Gepap> 1.75
<SirRalph> 1
<SirRalph> a temple would also be good
<SirRalph> or a settler
<UberKruX> yes
<skywalker-> 2
<skywalker-> 2
<Epistax> *delays decision*
<UberKruX> settler / spearman would be great
<skywalker-> which?
<UberKruX> cinsidering tis growig soon
<BigFurryMonster> Is there a jpg available or only .sav?
<skywalker-> settler
<Spiffor> I say we don't do anything now and ask punkbass when we see him
<UberKruX> a settler would work.
<Epistax> ---- Worker takes little time, solves population for a bit, helps for the rest of the game. 
  COUGH!
<Ninot> 9settler? 1: yes 2: no 3: abstain 
<BigFurryMonster> Epistax may be right
<SirRalph> I think we should impeach the city planner. He is of no use.
<rendelnep> 2
<Gepap> We need more workers
<Epistax> 2
<skywalker-> 1
<Kohonen> 2
<Spiffor> 2
<UberKruX> SirRalph: i cocur
<UberKruX> 1
<Gepap> we need ROADS
<Gepap> 2
<Good-Fella> 2
<SirRalph> 1
<BigFurryMonster> 3
<OPD> 3
<Kohonen> Yes I think we need roads to generate revenue
<Good-Fella> we want workers
<Good-Fella> i agree with goodfella, more workers indeed
<Epistax> are we going to be roading to NY right after we take it or not?
<skywalker-> sir ralph - I proposed this a while earlier
<Ninot> lol
<Spiffor> The worker poll won. Build a worker, and let's move out
<Good-Fella> ymore workers goodfella?  what a wonderful idea!
<BigFurryMonster> OK!
<Ninot> worker it is i suppose
* Epistax starts a labor strike
* UberKruX will laugh when the germans take our dyes and the persians take our iron.
<Ninot> ROFL Good-Fella
* BigFurryMonster thinks goodfella is a bit queer
* Gepap thinks we want labor support
<SirRalph> I will set up a poll
<Epistax> arg
<Spiffor> SirRalph : should we end the turnchat already ?
<Ninot> cmon, we need consesus guys, worker settler spearmen or gally?
<Good-Fella> *GoodFella can't do the little asterisk thng*
<Gepap> we need worker fr the tiron
* skywalker- likes third person
<Gepap> I emant, iron
<Epistax> could we stop the damn poles....
<Gepap> I meant meant
<Epistax> er polls...
<skywalker-> settler
<Spiffor> Ninot : after some thinking, worker is fine
<skywalker-> definately
<Gepap> wokrer won already
* Epistax decides to STFU so RED TEXT will appear
<Ninot> 4Termina builds WORKER!
<BigFurryMonster> yeah!
<Gepap> YES!
<Spiffor> Good. At last this thing is done
<Good-Fella> best decision youve made yet Ninot
* UberKruX grumbles something about havig 3 workers already.
<Spiffor> I say we stop wroking on a tile in termina
<skywalker-> won't termina go into disorder next turn though?
<Gepap> the more the mearier
<rendelnep> ah the wonders of despotism
<Epistax> uber.. we have less workers than cities... BAD!
<Good-Fella> how do you do the third person talking
<Ninot> Archer joins the stack?
<Gepap> write /me
<skywalker-> fewer, not less
<BigFurryMonster> "/me"
<UberKruX> Epistax: we have mroe free tiles than pop points.
<Good-Fella> oh /me
<Epistax> true
<BigFurryMonster> "/me eats banana"
<skywalker-> you type /me
<SirRalph> we need settlers! with what we'll close the gaps our troops leave??
<Ninot> 4Archer goto mountain N of BHQ
<Spiffor> Ninot : please make people in Termina stop working on a tile.
* skywalker- eats banana
* rendelnep discovrers the 3rd person ablity
<Epistax> uber-- those aren't comparable to form strategy...
<UberKruX> SirRalph: it appears as though logic is refuted y democracy
<UberKruX> by*
<Ninot> 4German warrior goes North
* Good-Fella eats banana
<Ninot> 4Persian Warrior goes NW
<Gepap> Didembassies lose in the poll?
<Good-Fella> finally
<UberKruX> yes.
<skywalker-> what?
<skywalker-> where are the warriors?
<UberKruX> what does the free worker do?
<Gepap> can we guess, is Bismark at war?
<Good-Fella> which worker, the babylonian?
<UberKruX> with persia
<Gepap> buid oads
<UberKruX> is my assumption
<Ninot> Good-Fella.. do me a favor, join #civ3demMinisters
<BigFurryMonster> watch his territory then
<Gepap> build road wth free worker
<Good-Fella> ok
<Epistax> tassagrad could use a road directly beneath it.  not sure why that worker is there.
* rendelnep pours suger on hjis banana heats it and eats banofee
<UberKruX> Epistax: we know.
<UberKruX> Epistax: i dont uderstand why he move it either
<UberKruX> moved*
* Gepap thinks rendelnep has no taste, yuck!
<skywalker-> what does worker do?
* skywalker- wonders what the worker should do
<Gepap> build roads
<Epistax> but...not...there! arg
<Epistax> heh
<OPD> Worker should mine
<Epistax> mining would be ok
<skywalker-> I think it should go NW
<skywalker-> then next turn build road
<Gepap> shold we have a poll?
<BigFurryMonster> on which info are you guy basing your decisions?
<rendelnep> 2
<Epistax> no wait-- he should mine. Tassagrad grows in 2 turns
<Good-Fella> the road below Tass should be finished by 1325 b.c.
<Epistax> Tassagrad needs a square with production
<Epistax> the other worker can complete the road
<Gepap> when woud mie be done?
<BigFurryMonster> That's good reasoning
<Epistax> not sure how long the mine takes
<Ninot> do we have worker orders yet?
<skywalker-> no
<UberKruX> goodfella give your oders ma!
<UberKruX> n
<Good-Fella> a new mine within Tass's borders will be done by next turn (south-south-eastern tile of the 
  city)
<OPD> Poly is in balance now.  if mine is built then poly would grow in a few turns after tile placement
<Epistax> I think he should mine.  the other worker should come down to road when he's done
<Ninot> Good-Fella, need the order
<Good-Fella> after, ill build road on the nearly mined tile (1350 b.c.)
<Gepap> then lets say mine
<Gepap> and move on
<Good-Fella> hold on Ninot
* UberKruX passes out
<UberKruX> and you people want to give him ANOTHER worker.
* Gepap waits for thm to take Uber away
<Ninot> lol Uber
<Good-Fella> for which turn?
* BigFurryMonster carries UberKrux away
* Epistax this turnchat is brought to you by smirnoff vodka, and the letter H.
* skywalker- thinks uber has had too much of that french wine
* Gepap thinks Public works takes tm
<Spiffor> GoodFella : in a turnchat, please give orders for the current turn, to avoid all confusion
* Gepap thinks work of engineers harder than that of grunts
<UberKruX> Gepap: not when theres onyl 2 choices
<UberKruX> Gepap: two LOGICAL ones ;)
<Gepap> well, he could move too
<Epistax> mmm... ear wax...
* Ninot waits half-patiently
<Epistax> ....
<UberKruX> Gepap: again logical. he should eb there in the first place.
<Gepap> wha about unpatiently
<Epistax> is he making a sundae?
<Good-Fella> yeah, were still on 1375 b.c. right, so i have no further orders if the worker 
  south-south-east of Tass has been orderedt to mine
<Spiffor> GoodFella : please post your oders FOR THE TURN BEING in the #civ3demministers chan
<Ninot> G-F.. hes not doin anything, he needs orders
* Gepap feels tension in the air
<Epistax> goodfella.. you haven't told him to mine yet
<UberKruX> Tass has been orderedt to mine
<Spiffor> afk
<Good-Fella> bah
<UberKruX> thats an order 
<UberKruX> i'm makign it an order to speed it up.
<Epistax> it's like a sneeze that just wont go out
<UberKruX> >:-|
* rendelnep is concerned that all this elitism is going to lead to aristocracy
* Gepap sees someone sent to the lions by Pharoe
<Ninot> oy.. lets hurry this up, you want him to mine, right?
<Spiffor> back
<UberKruX> curse all this red tape!
<Gepap> si
<Epistax> fortify archer?
<BigFurryMonster> GO MINE THE DAMN PLACE
<Gepap> oui
<Gepap> ja
<UberKruX> yes. mine god dammit.
<Gepap> da
<UberKruX> ya, archer fortifies.
<Epistax> he said mine
<Epistax> so put it in red
<Ninot> 4Hes mining now
<BigFurryMonster> Good boy
<Epistax> uber said fortify... red?
* Gepap celebrates
<Good-Fella> damn bueracracy!
<BigFurryMonster> Did we fill in Form JHS756 to build the mine...? ;-)
* Good-Fella doesnt know how to spell
<Epistax> good fella, you didn't say he would mine for a looong time.  you're the red tape :P
<Ninot> 4archer fortified
<OPD> I wish you could build mine fields in civ3
<Gepap> , n, only JHS755
<Ninot> yeah GF.. you gotta ORDER me to mine.. not say "if this.. if that..."
<skywalker-> end turn?
<UberKruX> OPD: i thought abotu it, it woulkd eba lto fo micromanagement
<BigFurryMonster> You can - but they are production mines, not explosion mines
<Good-Fella> i told in this thread way up there
<Good-Fella> whatever, its done now
<Ninot> ready to end, shall we?
<Spiffor> yes
<OPD> UK ? lol
<UberKruX> ja.
<Good-Fella> yes
<BigFurryMonster> !
<Gepap> ja,da, oui, si, yes
<Ninot> 4turn ended
<BigFurryMonster> What happens? What happens? What happens?
<Gepap> the sky falls
<BigFurryMonster> Oh nooooooooooooo
<skywalker-> the sky eats itself
<Ninot> the sun rose, the birds sang, and there was another day
<Gepap> what?
<skywalker-> bill clinton eats the sky
<skywalker-> randomness
<skywalker-> surrealism
<Gepap> like your answes skywalker?
<Ninot> 4Persian warrior goes NW
<rendelnep> we have 25 years of uneventful peace because of beaucracy
<skywalker-> You have two cows.  The government requires you to take harmonica lessons.
<Gepap> perhaps we will get 5 turns in this time
<skywalker-> anarchy
<Ninot> 4 Germany warrior moves W
<UberKruX> oh crap. workers!
<rendelnep> at that rate we sould have a country music by next turn
<skywalker-> You have to cows.  You sell the milk to your neighbors at a fair price or they shoot you.
<Epistax> all we need is a continual flow of orders.  right now it is a worker. that means good fella has 
  to say one sentence NOW :P
<Ninot> Good-Fella, im supposed to take what you said in MINISTERS as your orders?
* Gepap thinks Uber hates labor
<skywalker-> pure democracy
* UberKruX likes SLAVE labor. it's free and leaves more $$ for army
<skywalker-> You have two cows.  Your neighbors decide who gets the milk
<skywalker-> .
* Gepap thinks he might be sweep away by the revolution
<Ninot> 4 Worker between Tass and BHQ that just finnished the Jungle clearing begins road
<Epistax> good fella... one sentence... not a paragraph of general trends...... i don't care about how the 
  market is doing
* Gepap thinks skywalker likes cows too much
<Good-Fella> yup, the worker between Tass and B.H.Q. should be done cutting so build road w/ it
<BigFurryMonster> except the banana market!!
* skywalker- thinks that gepap has never heard of the two cows model of government
<Epistax> now the other worker
<Epistax> the one that just mined.. he does----
* Gepap thinks he is right
<Ninot> 4Both workers S-Se of Tass begin road
<SirRalph> G-F: where do they build road??
<Epistax> i have
<SirRalph> we need a road Apolyton-BHQ!
<Ninot> and end the road
<Epistax> :)
<SirRalph> argh
<Good-Fella> the long road will soon be complete
* UberKruX stabs GF with a sword of logic
<Epistax> ??
<Ninot> Turn endable.. shall we?
<skywalker-> yes
* Gepap want Uber arrested for assault!
<SirRalph> another turn lostz
<Epistax> oh lol
<Gepap> no
<Epistax> there are TWO workers there
* skywalker- thinks that uncle uber would be hard to arrest
<UberKruX> they both roaded.
<Good-Fella> have you started road on tile of newly cut jungle between Tassagrad and Banana H.Q.?
<Ninot> wait...
<skywalker-> but in the wrong space
<UberKruX> ow the archer/spearmen has lost a move
<skywalker-> yes
<Ninot> didnt Spiffor want to change a citizen to a financier?
<skywalker-> ouchies
<UberKruX> yes.
<Ninot> shall we do that?
<skywalker-> yep
<Epistax> termina will go into chaos if  nothing is done
<Epistax> or not
<Epistax> I don't know
<BigFurryMonster> Whatever you do - watch out for civil unrest
<Spiffor> Ninot : I don't think so, since a worker is ready next turn
<UberKruX> Ninot: i see no differece if tis a finance /sci
<Gepap> Spiff say no
<UberKruX> i say make it an entertainer
<Spiffor> However, I'm not expert about revolting
<Ninot> entertainer then?
<UberKruX> it will revolt next turn if you dont do something.
<SirRalph> what for?
<UberKruX> entertainer.
* Gepap thinks oters are experts on revolting...
<skywalker-> scientist
<Ninot> 4Changing one citizen in Termina to Entertainer
<UberKruX> skywalker-: no point
<BigFurryMonster> Must be Entertainer!
<BigFurryMonster> Otherwise: Revolt
<Spiffor> Ninot : I assume you changed the least productive ?
<skywalker-> no
<skywalker-> BFM
<Epistax> we done?
<BigFurryMonster> ?
<skywalker-> it will be fine if we do scientist or tax
<skywalker-> NINTO
<skywalker-> NINOT
<skywalker-> no
<UberKruX> skywalker-: but they will do nothig.
<Ninot> Siff: yeah, all the mined tyles are still being worked
<UberKruX> skywalker-: THERE IS NO SCI/TRADE BENEFIT
<skywalker-> entertainer is wasted gold or beaker
<Spiffor> Actually, skywalker is right. If we make him a taxman, everybosy is happy
<skywalker-> ???????????
<UberKruX> skywalker-: no there isnt.
<BigFurryMonster> Why not, Uber?
<skywalker-> everyone is content
<Epistax> ...
<skywalker-> I'm right
<skywalker-> I checked
<Ninot> you played ahead?
<Gepap> ohh, evidence
* BigFurryMonster doesn't see how making a taxman helps against disorder
<Epistax> guys are you actually TRYING this stuff? taxman = no extra gold from there.  science = no extra 
  science from there.  max the guys  and look at the output
<skywalker-> no
<skywalker-> ??????
<BigFurryMonster> The extra tax/science is not produced 'in the city'
<Epistax> no matter waht you do it's 4 gold 0 science
<Spiffor> Ninot : no playing ahead. It's exactly like switching from archer to spearman, then archer : you 
  can come back
<Epistax> ah that's a bitch
<UberKruX> Epistax: thats what i thought. but apparently it adds it directly to the treasury
<BigFurryMonster> It is counted in the general balance (hit F1)
<skywalker-> there is a benefit
<Ninot> lol Spiff.. i just wanted to catch someone playin ahead :(
<Epistax> booo (destroying firaxis)
<skywalker-> no it's 8 gold/turn
* UberKruX agrees. a taxman
<Epistax> are we ending?
<skywalker-> instead of 7
<Epistax> turn
<Epistax> ...
<skywalker-> if we make tax
<Epistax> GAH@
<skywalker-> NO END TURN
<Ninot> So Taxman or Entertainer?
<Gepap> taxman
<Ninot> Taxman
<UberKruX> Tac.
<UberKruX> x
<SirRalph> taxman of course
<skywalker-> tax
<Spiffor> What I see is an overall +8 this turn if we make him a taxman, rather than +7 if we make him an 
  entetrtiner (whole Civ)
<Ninot> 4Termina switches a citizen to Taxman
<Gepap> we like the IRS
<skywalker-> see I was right
<Ninot> end turn?
<Gepap> 1, yes
<Spiffor> yes
<Epistax> ok, END TURN ALREADY?
<BigFurryMonster> There is "income from taxmen" on the F1 screen
<skywalker-> entertainer doesn't give us WLT*D, so duh tax
<skywalker-> end turn
<Ninot> 4 Turn ended
<Epistax> there's also a 'is this turn taking too long' on the science screen
<BigFurryMonster> Anybody explain WHY this helps against disorder?
<Good-Fella> end it
<UberKruX> AMERICAN THREAT
<UberKruX> AAAHHHH
<skywalker-> termina builds?
<Kohonen> it reduces the number of citizens that can be unhappy
<Gepap> what?
<UberKruX> no one else got it?
<skywalker-> what does termina build?
<Epistax> uber.... *sigh*
<BigFurryMonster> Kohonen - I think there is still plenty citizens left to get unhappy
<Gepap> What happened?
<UberKruX> Abe came up to me and demanded Terriroty map and 36 gold...
<skywalker-> ?
<Spiffor> Given we are preparing war, I suggest Uber decides what should be built during punkbass absence
<skywalker-> nothing happened to me
<Gepap> and you said...?
<BigFurryMonster> So you burned his beard?
<Epistax> odd.. he has our territory map
<skywalker-> I didn't get an offer
<BigFurryMonster> Abe's drunk
<UberKruX> im usig timelines sav for the forms and 1.29...
<Epistax> what matters is if ninot got it
<BigFurryMonster> "offer" - haha
<UberKruX> im going to decline
<Epistax> that's it uber
<Epistax> 1.29
<Gepap> I thught we said no 1.29
<Ninot> I didnt get an american thread
<UberKruX> they didnt declare war.
<UberKruX> dont worry
<UberKruX> doesnt change anything.
<Ninot> ack, threat even
<UberKruX> :)
<Spiffor> nor did I
<SirRalph> i'd decline too. we're ready for war
<BigFurryMonster> No 'threat' either?
<BigFurryMonster> Yeha
<Epistax> thread lol
<Spiffor> I didn't get threat, because I'm 1.21
<rendelnep> maybe he knows....
<UberKruX> lol
<UberKruX> maybe the AI is better in 1.29 ;)
<skywalker-> no threat for my
<skywalker-> me 
<Epistax> .. ministers.. you know ninot is waiting for orders right now
<skywalker-> I've got 1.21
<Ninot> 4THERE IS NO THREAT YOU 1.29 FOOLS!
<skywalker-> haven't bothered to download yet
* Gepap thinks Abe hates Uber
<BigFurryMonster> Anyway - we can imagine Abe will threaten us next turn..!
<BigFurryMonster> Stay away from his troops for a bit!
<SirRalph> hehe, I have 1.29, refused and abe gave in, lol
<BigFurryMonster> Is this playing ahead? Hmm
<Epistax> needs orders:: termina, apolyton, worker, two warriors, thing apolytonbuilt, new tassagrad square
<UberKruX> SirRalph: me too, lol
<Spiffor> Well, I think we should stop the quickpoll nonsense each time a city has built something. Should 
  we entrust the Prez / a minister to replace punkbass ?
* WhiteBandit has joined #civ3dem
<Ninot> 4Germany warrior moves west
<Ninot> 4Persian warrior moves west
<Gepap> , why not ralph
<Gepap> perhaps we can vote on punkbass replacement
<WhiteBandit> good afternoon
<Spiffor> Gepap : I second that
<Ninot> 4Archer and Spearmen in Apolyton goto the mountain stack N of BHQ
<Gepap> hello
<SirRalph> yes, impeach 'em, he's of no use
<Epistax> good fella, you have a new guy to order..
<Gepap> , I meant temp. replacement
<UberKruX> Ninot: please tell me they went N N N
<Good-Fella> ok, lets see jungle or grassland
<Ninot> 4both workers S-SE of Tass move NW to the S of Tass
<UberKruX> well, N N
<Spiffor> SirRalph : Gepap and myself meant for a temporary replacement, during the turnchat
<SirRalph> so, finnaly now build a settler in Termina
<WhiteBandit> are we conducting war today, or still preparing?
<BigFurryMonster> Where is our next city gonna be?
<SirRalph> and I mean a permanent impeachment
<Gepap> wait, should we vote on a temp. for punk?
<skywalker-> impeach!
<skywalker-> I'll do it :)
<skywalker-> since sir ralph is already IE minister
<Spiffor> SirRalph : sure, but permanent impeachment can be done in the forum. Temporary replacement must 
  be done here and now
<Epistax> Apolyton needs orders.  Termina needs orders.  Worker in Termina needs orders.
<Gepap> why not have Uber, SirRalph and Spiff as candidates
<BigFurryMonster> GET ON WITH IT plz!
<SirRalph> who misses all turnchats and never leaves orders is not worth to be a minister
<skywalker-> ME
<skywalker-> I wanna be a candidate
<skywalker-> :)
<OPD> Incase no-ones realized poly will be in disorder next turn unless something is done.
<Spiffor> Gepap : I won't candidate. We're preparing war, and I'm a builder. I won't be an able candidate 
  in these times
<Gepap> but your not in gov. Skywalker
<SirRalph> Spiffor, agreed
<Gepap> so, Uber ad SirRalph
* Epistax cries
<skywalker-> we can't have someone in TWO posts
<Good-Fella> what about you GePap?
<rendelnep> and besides wskywalker i thought you wanted to be a science minister?
<Gepap> I decline, and not in gov. anyway
<skywalker-> this is temporary
<Ninot> 4Termina Worker moves East, South to open grassland
<Gepap> shold be another minister
<Gepap> since mins. were elected
<skywalker-> ?????
* BigFurryMonster will vote for skywalker if he won't build galleys
<skywalker-> east, south is in water
* skywalker- says ok
<Epistax> |||termina/apolyton/archer|||
<Spiffor> Uber, SirRalph : do you both agree on candidating for punkbass temporary replacement ?
<Ninot> nooo.. that would be se
<Epistax> try again sky
<skywalker-> I won't build a galley
<UberKruX> sure
* BigFurryMonster votes for skywalker
<skywalker-> hey!
* skywalker- thanks BFM
<Spiffor> SirRalph : do you candidate ?
<Kohonen> i think ministers should have veto power since skywalker wasn't elected
<Gepap> hey, ninot, can we vote on a temp. for punkbass?
<skywalker-> ninot, n/m on worker
<skywalker-> ok
<skywalker-> I'll agree to that
<SirRalph> yes
<OPD> Phah temples in termina and poly
<Epistax> .... two cities STILL NEED ORDERS!  *looks for something to hurt*
<Ninot> Gepap.. up to you, its a free country
<Spiffor> OK, quickpoll then
<Spiffor> I'll handle it
<Gepap> thks
<Ninot> 4 archer fortifies on army mountain
<WhiteBandit> can we afford to build a settler and go after that iron to the NE?
* Gepap remembers were are still in despotism
<skywalker-> I think so
<Spiffor> 12Quickpoll : what official should have punbass' powers during this turnchat ? 1.Uber    2. 
  SirRalph
<Ninot> need orders for cities
<UberKruX> 1
<UberKruX> ;)
<Gepap> 2
<Spiffor> 1
<BigFurryMonster> 3 skywalker
<Ninot> 23
<skywalker-> HEY!
<Ninot> lol
<Ninot> 3
<skywalker-> I'M A CANDIDATE!
<skywalker-> 3
<Ninot> 3-abstain
<Good-Fella> 3
<WhiteBandit> 1
<skywalker-> 3-skywalker
<UberKruX> if sky wins i leave the turnchat and resign.
<Ninot> ok.. 4-abstain
<Epistax> hehehe
<BigFurryMonster> Why doesn't he get a fair chance
<BigFurryMonster> ?
<Ninot> sorry, if uber regins.. me too :)
<skywalker-> I'm winning
<skywalker-> lol
<Spiffor> skywalker : you're not an offical, sorry. Normally, Timeline should play punkbass, but he's not 
  here also
<Gepap> agai, only mins candidates
<Epistax> i have a strong convinction to go with ninot on this one. abstain.
<rendelnep> 2
* Good-Fella abstains
<SirRalph> 1
<Good-Fella> 4
<OPD> \me abstains 
<OPD> doh
<BigFurryMonster> Why, Spiffor? The others weren't even interested!
* OPD abstains
<Ninot> decide before i get my whip!
<Gepap> votes re 1>uber, 2 SirRaplh, 4 abstain
* skywalker- pouts
<skywalker-> :)
<Epistax> i don't even know what punkbass does.  I just want red text on a couple cities
<Gepap> Uber is winning
<UberKruX> this is the worst quickpoll ever
<UberKruX> lol
<rendelnep> repoll!!!!
<WhiteBandit> we need one of those irc vote scripts :P
<Gepap> Again, of official candidates, Uber won
<Ninot> Im imposing martial law! Uber, kill them all!
<skywalker-> repoll
<skywalker-> no
<skywalker-> repoll
<Epistax> Do we have to answer in the form of a question?
<Epistax> 4?
<SirRalph> sure he did. he got my vote. :p
<Good-Fella> who is uber?
<BigFurryMonster> GET ON WITH IT plz
<UberKruX> ok
<UberKruX> i'll do it for now.
<UberKruX> Termina: Settler
* Good-Fella changes vote to Uber
<Epistax> ok that's it, I'm getting chips
<Ninot> ok,, we need Termina and Poly orders
<BigFurryMonster> At least Uber is quick
<UberKruX> Apolyton: Galley
<WhiteBandit> w00t!
<Spiffor> Uber : you know get to decide what we build in our cities
<UberKruX> the galley will be used to bring the settler to the iron
<Ninot> 4 Termina builds Settler
* WhiteBandit is happy!
<skywalker-> whoohoo!
<skywalker-> GALLEY!
<WhiteBandit> i didn't think people would listen to me
<WhiteBandit> hehe
<Ninot> 4Apolyton builds galley
<skywalker-> yipee
<Ninot> end turn?
<UberKruX> agreed.
<Gepap> 1, yes
<Spiffor> agreed
<UberKruX> lol
<Ninot> 4Turn ended
<skywalker-> yes
<OPD> No
<OPD> disorder
<OPD> i think
<SirRalph> we need not to agree, Uber has the power
<UberKruX> oh fuck
<Ninot> ... disorder in Poly now
<WhiteBandit> how many turns until settler and galley?
<skywalker-> oops
<UberKruX> how did we miss that!
<BigFurryMonster> OPD told ya
<OPD> I said earlier
<Spiffor> gosh, we suck :)
<Ninot> dont look at me, im just the order-monkey
<skywalker-> sh*t
<skywalker-> AND I SAW IT!
* Gepap demands government investgation
* Ninot promises a completely biased and covered up report
<skywalker-> one poly citizen taxman
<BigFurryMonster> Capital in disorder! President flees in panic!
<UberKruX> from the forest?
* Gepap thinks jungle Gazzete will have big scoop
<WhiteBandit> what year are we currently in now?
* WhiteBandit wonders how many turns he's missed
<UberKruX> 1300 bc
<Ninot> 1300
<Gepap> 1325?
<WhiteBandit> oh wow
<skywalker-> this'll be great
<Epistax> baaack
<Epistax> loool
<Spiffor> The Yanks have code of laws
<skywalker-> so do we
<Epistax> and we have a capital about to blow
<Gepap> Those damned Yankees!
<skywalker-> it's in the forum
<skywalker-> damnyankees!
<Epistax> our capital IS in critical condition, correct?
<Ninot> we can get Code of Laws for 197 Lump
<Spiffor> Romans and Persians have CoL too
<Ninot> uhh, ill check Persia
<Gepap> How much money do we have?
<skywalker-> one poly citizen becomes taxman
<skywalker-> ha ha
<BigFurryMonster> Do we need CoL?
<skywalker-> changed back now
<Good-Fella> hmmm...road or mine on open grassland?
<skywalker-> :)
<Epistax> dmanit, just last turn perisa didn't have math either
<rendelnep> ramdom flucuations in the space time continum to those americans!!!!
<BigFurryMonster> Otherwise - wait. It'll get cheaper
<Ninot> Persia is more expensive than USA
<Spiffor> We can get CoL from the persians for 204 gold
<Gepap> Why not have CoL
<Spiffor> It would better our relations with them
<Ninot> USA is charging 197
<skywalker-> do we want to make trades with America?
<Spiffor> But I think we can wait for the war with the Yanks
<UberKruX> USA will give us it after we mutilate them.
<SirRalph> buy it from Abe
<BigFurryMonster> We'd have a chance of getting back our money with the USA
<skywalker-> true
<skywalker-> good point
<SirRalph> Abe will give us our money back later, or techs he bought for it
<Epistax> Do we have any use for code of laws at THIS moment? NO.  Is our capital on fire? YES
<Gepap> wait, what about Xerxes?
<Gepap> will he sel?
<Spiffor> Gepap : yes
<Spiffor> 204 gold
<Gepap> Ok, I saw he asks for more
<Epistax> ...
<WhiteBandit> our capitol is on fire?
<WhiteBandit> hmm
<Epistax> dude, NERO IS FIDDLING
* Ninot fiddles away
<BigFurryMonster> Bring in the water!
* Gepap thinks NINOT=NERO!
<skywalker-> ONE POLY CITIZEN BECOMES TAX COLLECTOR!!!!!!!!!!
<skywalker-> simple solution, people!
* rendelnep smirks at the phrase
<Gepap> I though BHQ was capitol
<Epistax> nah
<BigFurryMonster> Why did we have disorder anyway? Did Poly grow?
<Ninot> .. what happened to the ministers?
<skywalker-> gepap - WHAT?!
<Epistax> suggest make spearman in capital to shut the rioters up
<WhiteBandit> ran out of bananas
<Epistax> we removed a defense unit
<Gepap> I was confused
<skywalker-> ONE POLY CITIZEN BECOMES TAXMAN
<Epistax> I feel the the PTA really did disband
<BigFurryMonster> We should appoint a minister to be responsible for CivDisOrder
<UberKruX> 8,1 I propose a spearman from Termina go towards Apolyton
<UberKruX> and an entertainer be made in Termina
<BigFurryMonster> That might be better
<Ninot> shall we make a taxman in Poly till then?
<Gepap> Wy not go with Skywalker here?
<Spiffor> I think a taxman will do the trick
<skywalker-> no entertainer
<Epistax> instead of apolyton making a spearman?
<skywalker-> taxman
<Gepap> can't mke anything in chaos
<skywalker-> TAXMAN IN POLY
<BigFurryMonster> Just send the unit you removed back
<skywalker-> I've checked it.
<Gepap> men needed in the frot
<skywalker-> IT WORKS
<WhiteBandit> hmm, would it be too much trouble to ask for a quick update to the saved game?
<WhiteBandit> if so, don't worry about it
* BigFurryMonster agrees with WB
<Spiffor> WhiteBandit : I'll send you my save
<Ninot> Whitebandit, ill see what I can do at the end of this turn
* Gepap thinks skywalket should be followed
<Ninot> oh, thanks Spiff
<WhiteBandit> thank you sir
* skywalker- agrees
<UberKruX> ok.
<UberKruX> we let apiolyton starve for a while
<Epistax> duh
<Epistax> :)
<WhiteBandit> DOH
<skywalker-> no starvation
<UberKruX> apolyton builds spearman :-/
<WhiteBandit> let me fix my filter
<skywalker-> just no growth
<Gepap> until we get more men, can't afford growth
<Ninot> So Apolyton switches one worker to taxman?
<Gepap> hy not pop.rush a temple?
<Epistax> (uber, we were going to do that anyway, just galley was picked for some odd reason)
<skywalker-> YES
<skywalker-> NINOT YES
<Gepap> next trun
<skywalker-> uber picked galley
<skywalker-> not me
<Ninot> 4 One citizen in Poly switched from Forests to Taxman
<Gepap> (why don't we pop. rush a temple in poly after the crisis is done?)
<skywalker-> finally
<BigFurryMonster> Let the woodchopper go by the houses with his axe to collect more tax!!
<skywalker-> if we impeach punkbass I'm running for city planner
<BigFurryMonster> Maybe this is where the word 'tax' comes from?
<skywalker-> lol
<Gepap> again, what about rushing a temple in Poly
<WhiteBandit> Spiffor - one second, i'm trying to set my stupid dcc filter
<Spiffor> ok
<WhiteBandit> it is ignoring sav files for some reason
<rendelnep>  tax the axes!!!
<SirRalph> Gepap: I would support that
* Gepap thnks we need to crack the whips
* Ninot gets his
* BigFurryMonster thinks our President is a whip fanatic
<Ninot> 4Luxuries raised by 10%
<skywalker-> ???????
<Ninot> 4One worker in Apolyton sent to Wahles
<skywalker-> why?
<Ninot> Whales even
* Gepap thinsk BFM will get whipped
<UberKruX> so all workers are beig used?
<BigFurryMonster> "sent to Wales" ? Oh dear!
<Ninot> all workers active in Poly now
<WhiteBandit> hmm, alright i think that should work
<WhiteBandit> Spiffor - try sending again please
* BigFurryMonster is too Big to be Whipped
<rendelnep> that is very very harsh
<Epistax> woah
<skywalker-> no more tax collector?
<Epistax> ottah the blue
<skywalker-> are we getting rid of the tax
<Good-Fella> yeah, all workers should be working
<Ninot> 4 in Poly, you should all have one worker on Whales, one on the mined tyle, one in Forest 
<skywalker-> ok
<WhiteBandit> jkfhgkfdjgfd
<WhiteBandit> !
* WhiteBandit hates computers
<skywalker-> ?
<BigFurryMonster> HJHGF MNSFJ ?
<WhiteBandit> oh
<skywalker-> ?????
<WhiteBandit> mIRC is rejecting DCC's with SAV files for some reason
<WhiteBandit> i can't figure out how to get it to accept it
<Spiffor> 12Working on whales and raising luxuries by 10% will make one citizen happy, enough to dismantle 
  unhappiness
<Epistax> WB-- turn off autoignore
* rendelnep p9oints out that those forms do not exsist
<Ninot> we have a worker not doin anything.. Good-Fella?
<WhiteBandit> ok
* skywalker- asks for the pres in here
<Epistax> file/options/dcc/folders
<WhiteBandit> gotcha
* WhiteBandit crosses fingers
<Ninot> im here Sky
<Good-Fella> i dont think so ninot, ill repeat orders if you like though
<Ninot> ok, repeat
<Ninot> if you can, post it in BLUE! so i see it
<WhiteBandit> Spiffor - let's try this one more time, if it doesn't work... err, I owe you some bananas
<skywalker-> what do the workers do?
<Good-Fella> Both workers directly south of Tassagrad build a road. Worker between Tassagrad and Banana 
  H.Q. finishes road and begins work on mine. 
<Epistax> ...
<Good-Fella> worker on open grassland builds road
<Epistax> too bad that has nothing to do with this worker
<Epistax> there ya go
<Spiffor> If we move a spearman from Termina to Poly, we'll have to deal with unhappiness in Termina. This 
  can be dealt with : mke people work on a sea tile rather than a grassland
<Ninot> 4Worker on open grassland builds road
<BigFurryMonster> Nice, Spiffor
<Epistax> good fella, are you unable to play the game along with us?
<Ninot> 42 Workers South of Tassagrad build road
<Ninot> acj
<BigFurryMonster> "ack"
<Ninot> 4Workers South of Tassagrad build road
<skywalker-> which open grassland?
<Good-Fella> yeah, im not playing right now, if theres a way to play it in a window id ont know how
<Epistax> WE ARE ROADED!
<Epistax> sky-- the one the worker is ON
<Ninot> 4Worker between Tassagrad and BHQ builds mine
<WhiteBandit> you just have to alt-tab i think
<skywalker-> just do alt-tab
<Kohonen> use alt-tab to switch
<BigFurryMonster> Use Alt-Tab, G-F
<skywalker-> which worker I mean, duh
<WhiteBandit> w00t!
<Epistax> time for uber orders
<WhiteBandit> thanks Spiffor!
<skywalker-> the one se se of termina
<UberKruX> i gave them a while ago
<UberKruX> lol
<skywalker-> rigth?
<Epistax> were they in RED?
<skywalker-> right?
<Spiffor> WhiteBandit : you're welcome. However, some orders have been issued since I saved
<Epistax> yes sky
<Gepap> so?.....
<Gepap> anyone out there?
<skywalker-> thank you\
<Ninot> 4Persian Warrior SW
<Epistax> i should make a flash presentation of every turn :)
<Epistax> complete with 20 minute delays
<WhiteBandit> Spiffor - that's fine, just checking up on things :)
* skywalker- offers a 5000 banana reward on abe's head
<Ninot> 4 german warrior S
<BigFurryMonster> What we really need is some kind of viewing window on Ninot's screen
<Good-Fella> alt-tab within the game?
<Epistax> his head is too high
<Spiffor> So, should we not trade for code of laws ?
<Epistax> how about a foot?
<Good-Fella> ok hold on, brb
<Gepap> is there a mIRC problem?
<BigFurryMonster> Yes, G-F
<Spiffor> GoodFella : yes, when you press alt-tab under windoow, you swich from an active program to 
  another
<Ninot> 4 Archer/Spearmen SE of Tass move into Tass
<Epistax> Spiff, code of laws is only going down in price
* WhiteBandit really should be doing sociology hw, but Civ3 is more fun.
<Epistax> REPHRASE!
* BigFurryMonster thinks this IS sociology
<skywalker-> or you can hit the wavy windo button
<Epistax> hah your in school
<Ninot> turn is endable.. trades?
* Epistax corrects, this is antisociology
<Epistax> ninot...
<WhiteBandit> haha
<Ninot> yeah?
<Epistax> fix your red...
<Spiffor> I don't support any trdes
<Epistax> oh wait
<Epistax> nm
<Epistax> hehe
<WhiteBandit> sociology = evil
<Epistax> hit's ok :)
* OPD wishes he was still in school
<WhiteBandit> fuck that
<WhiteBandit> school = evil
<WhiteBandit> :(
<Ninot> ???
<Epistax> sorta
<Spiffor> Ninot : I have no problem ending the turn
<Epistax> you told us to do something that was on auto
<UberKruX> no problem.
<SirRalph> so what are we doing here?
<Ninot> so no trades?
<SirRalph> playing or chatting?
<skywalker-> end turn
<skywalker-> both
<BigFurryMonster> With all respect - can we do turns a bit faster?
<Ninot> 4Ending turn
<Epistax> tund ern
<Ninot> BFM.. this is blinding speed
<BigFurryMonster> It is?
<Ninot> yup
<skywalker-> yep
<BigFurryMonster> Ouch
<Gepap> for a trchat
<Epistax> workers should now road to washington :)
<Ninot> considering were missing ministers, and we we did last time, this is like the speed of light
<Gepap> more than 2 turns in 2 hours
<WhiteBandit> hehe
<Epistax> heheh
<Gepap> a record!
<skywalker-> heeheee
<OPD> did anyone else have contact from the persians
<skywalker-> :)
<skywalker-> lol
<Epistax> but the waits in this one are more painful
<Epistax> before wer ewere looking at trades
<Epistax> nope
<skywalker-> NINOT!!!!!
<WhiteBandit> hmm the greeks want to talk to me in my sav.
<Ninot> WHHHHHAAAT?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!
<skywalker-> please do your minister stuff HERE
<skywalker-> you're ignoring us
<Epistax> ??
<Epistax> no
<Ninot> Sky.. no
<Epistax> lol
<skywalker-> we feel unloved
<skywalker-> :)
<Epistax> he's supposed to ignore you
<skywalker-> unwanted
<Gepap> who's talking to whom?
<Ninot> thats the point ;)
<skywalker-> oh! the rejection!
<Epistax> it's in the code of laws.  The president shall obey his duties and ignore skywalker.
<rendelnep> oh the drama..
<Ninot> 4German warrior goes S
<Epistax> don't think of it as rejection, think of it, as a lack of acceptance, with vengence.
<OPD> WB I had greeks too not persians
<Ninot> 4 Persian Warrior goes W
<Spiffor> Except Iroquois, Russians and babylonians, everyone has philosphy + Code of Laws
<Ninot> 4Archer/Spearman combo go-to Mountain stack
<WhiteBandit> damn
<WhiteBandit> we may have to race the persians for that iron
<WhiteBandit> :(
<Gepap> Question: if  civ ask to talk in their turns, does the prez. talk to mins?
<skywalker-> DAMN!
<Ninot> Uber, change production in Poly to temple?
<UberKruX> yes
<skywalker-> greek settler stack near Ivory coast
<Ninot> 4Apolyton switches to Temple
<Epistax> sky-- there's not settler in that stack
<skywalker-> oh
<skywalker-> oops
<Epistax> odd huh
<Ninot> 4 Spearmen on mountain fortifies
<skywalker-> I saw a hoplite with a tic under it and assumed the second unit was a settler
<Gepap> maybe alex is at war
<Epistax> we need worker orders
<skywalker-> that'd be good
<WhiteBandit> oh... my...
<Epistax> if good fella can't see the game, then someone else has to give the orders
<skywalker-> we need embassy with greece
<Epistax> skywalker, take that up in the forum
<Gepap> we need embassies, period
<WhiteBandit> i just made the mistake of pressing F8
<WhiteBandit> :(
<Epistax> (i agree but most don't)
<Ninot> I need orders for the worker-duo.. GOOD-FELLA! POST IN BLUE!!!
<Epistax> load the autosave? what's f8 do?
<WhiteBandit> hehe
<WhiteBandit> brings up the world ranking list
<WhiteBandit> :P
<OPD> embassy with greeks 44gp 
<Epistax> ninot--- good fella can't see the game last I heard
<Epistax> ooooh
<Ninot> yeah, but i still need orders
<OPD> can sell our world map to greeks for 32gp
<Gepap> its no problem to see F8
<Epistax> notice that america is very much as bad as us
<Ninot> Greece has Philosophy
<Good-Fella> im in it now
<WhiteBandit> hmm
<WhiteBandit> did the french build a city N of termina?
<Gepap> Hey, who replaces sn00py?
<Ninot> post in blue plz GF.. ctrl-k for colors
<Spiffor> Gepap : currently, no one
<Ninot> i nominate Spiff
<Good-Fella> 12ok
<Spiffor> Ninot : I accept
<Gepap> did he leave orders?
<WhiteBandit> Gepap - oh I know, but I'm talking about look at our world ranking in where we stand :)
<Epistax> Ninot, you have some orders from uber to redify
<skywalker-> I nominate me
<Epistax> or at least you will
<Epistax> UBER do the rest
<Ninot> Epistax.. i did already
<UberKruX> Epistax: he did it
<Ninot> lol.. your slowing 
<Epistax> uber- sorry I saw 'activate spearman' and assumed that ment it didn't fortifying..
<UberKruX> ah
<Epistax> anyway
<Epistax> red plz!
<Ninot> >?
<OPD> Brits will give us 40gp for our world map
<skywalker-> I love red tape!
<SirRalph> so what shall the workers do, G-F? It's getting boring
* Epistax wants a road to new york
* UberKruX has to go in 30 minutes
* Gepap agrees with epi
* Ninot does too, itll be over by then
<OPD> aztecs will give us 66gp for world map
<skywalker-> I have to go soon
<UberKruX> so unless you want to speed up the turns, the assault on america will have to wait
<SirRalph> yes, I'd say sell WM's around
<WhiteBandit> i agree, sell maps
<Spiffor> 12Quickpoll : should we acquire Philosophy and Code of Laws ? (223 gold by the French) 1.Yes 2.No 
  3.Abstain
<skywalker-> sorry, gtg now, mom
<Ninot> well i need GF to speak up, and i need to know if we are making trades
<BigFurryMonster> Sell - sell - sell
<Gepap> 1
<UberKruX> 2
<OPD> or we could wait untill they have more money
<BigFurryMonster> 2
<Ninot> 1
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<Kohonen> 1
<Spiffor> This poll doesn't need us to buy by the French, it's just to give an idea
<Gepap> and make money back by selling'
<WhiteBandit> 1
<Epistax> 1 (assuming we get cash back from WM)
<SirRalph> 2
<Good-Fella> ok, hold on
<OPD> only about 4 civs have any money
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<Epistax> lol
<Gepap> and we sell maps to them
<WhiteBandit> hmm
<Epistax> will now the french will
<Epistax> errwell
<Gepap> can't we give map and money?
<Epistax> how heavy is 1 gold?
<Gepap> 1 gold = 2 bannas
<Spiffor> We could probably resell one of these techs for up to 27 money and updated Bab, Rus and Iroq maps
<Ninot> 4 1 worker s of Tass moves 2 North and starts mining
<Ninot> the non-slave
<Spiffor> Did everybody vote ?
<Epistax> 2
<Gepap> no, but I thnk 1 won
<Epistax> sorry, I mean What is 2?
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<Gepap> 2 is no, no trade
<Spiffor> Epi : did you change your vote ?
<Epistax> no
<Epistax> 1 :)
<rendelnep> what is the vote for?
<Spiffor> <Spiffor> Quickpoll : should we acquire Philosophy and Code of Laws ? (223 gold by the French) 
  1.Yes 2.No 3.Abstain
<rendelnep> 1
<Ninot> 4 second worker go-to tile NW of BHQ
<Kohonen> 1
<Gepap> Trade wins approval
<Ninot> turn is endable, just need word on this trade, i give Spiff the final order on it
<Epistax> if you throw in the world map, it's 194 gol
<SirRalph> repoll, huh?
<Good-Fella> 1
<rendelnep> soory about that mum forced me off
* BigFurryMonster will go to bed now (yawn). Bye all!
<SirRalph> make gold, people
<OPD> bye
<SirRalph> trade, or the AIs will
<Gepap> bye OPD
<OPD> no
<SirRalph> sell World maps
<Good-Fella> 12yeah, trade
<Epistax> costs less with world map of joy....
<OPD> I was saying bye to bfm
<Epistax> world map brings trade price down to 194...
<Gepap> sell maps and buy from French
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* UberKruX is going now. i would like my powers as city planenr given to sir raplh. you have my attack 
  plans if you need them
<Spiffor> 12Results : yes wins with 6 votes (Ninot, Gepap, Kohonen, WhiteBandit, Epistax, rendelnep). No 
  loses with 3 votes (Uber, BFM, SirRalph)
<UberKruX> later all.
<Ninot> Spiffor, i make that exact deal?
<Gepap> bye Uber
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<Spiffor> Ninot : yes.
<Gepap> we can use less gold if we use map
<Epistax> a lot less. sorta
<Ninot> 4 Philosophy and COL bought from France for 223 lump gold
<Spiffor> Ninot : and sell philosophy to Rus, Iroqus and Babs for all their money and world maps
<Gepap> well, we should sell our mpas, recoup loss
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<Spiffor> Gepa : we have enough money already. Plus, our map is much less precious now that the AI has 
  mapwhored (I think)
<rendelnep> and what abou those sciences as well?
<SirRalph> yea, I concur, Spiffor. Dont forget to sell WMs around, squeeze money our of the AIs
<Epistax> we're no longer the richest...
<Gepap> I think dog_style is late
<Epistax> we're not the "est" anything in the game
<Gepap> funniets, 
<Epistax> smallest.. smartest... nope nothing
<Gepap> slowest
<rendelnep> what about 2nd weakest?
* Ninot SUGGESTS we end the turnchat so these trades can be worked out in time for the upcoming turnthread 
  (and, well, Uber left, and i gotta eat in 10)
<Epistax> we ARE the most delayingest
<Gepap> grumpiests
<Epistax> smelliest
<SirRalph> Yes, Ninot, end it!
<Kohonen> When is the next turnchat?
<rendelnep> tardiest
<Gepap> wait, NINOT, wht other trades?
<Epistax> WE ARE THE MOST YELLOW!  
<Ninot> we can sell these techs, cant we?
* Epistax rips off shirt
<Epistax> W000T!
<Gepap> we should sell techs
<Gepap> get back money, make frineds
<Gepap> friends
<Ninot> ...does everyone have the techs already?
<Gepap> no, babs, ruskies, iroqs don't
<Ninot> 4Turnchat ended! i urge you all to get some premium deals before the turnthread
<Ninot> 5 full turns, not bad
<Gepap> which will be?,,,,,,,
<Ninot> Tuesday
<Gepap> Damn!
<WhiteBandit> hmm
<rendelnep> isn't the highest we ever had?
<SirRalph> bye folks
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<Epistax> chat logs ended
<OPD> bye all
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<Epistax> highest what?
<WhiteBandit> i think amount of turns completed
<rendelnep> number of turns per a chat
<Gepap> Well, most likely I won't be here Tuesday
<Epistax> thought we had aroud 10 :P
<rendelnep> as bandit said
<Good-Fella> auf wiedersehen
<Epistax> er one around 10
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<Ninot> Gepap, you dont have to be
<Ninot> Turnthreads are in the forums.. and its ministers orders for 1 turn, no more
<WhiteBandit> What time on Tuesday?
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<WhiteBandit> DOH
<Gepap> I know, but then I won't heare all the cries of pain
<Gepap> well, like rats from ships, goodbye
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<rendelnep> seeya
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